April 1989 MAGazine Volume 5 Number 4


Saturday, April 8, 1989 - 1:00 PM - the General Meeting will be held in the Parrish Building, Room #7, which is east of Jenning's Hall on the campus of State Technical Institute of Memphis. We will discuss the results of the second member survey (included within this newsletter) and other topics of general interest to the group. Todd Rooks will continue his lessons about the CLI. Todd is the chairperson for the New Users SIG. Please read Broadus Weatherall's editorial.


By Broadus Weatherall

Well, I'm not sure I should say this, it may jinx all our efforts, but it seems that the new administration is beginning to settle into their respective jobs and get whatever bugs may plague us ironed out. .I know the job has -put a strain on me, I've actually had to get more organized - and as JoAnne can tell you, that's going some! Nonetheless, as time goes by, I think the club is - and will continue - to get better and better.

At the last meeting, we took a little while at the beginning to throw around some questions, answers, and opinions. It seemed to me that this was fairly well received, at least it gave more people a chance to get involved with concerns that they had. I was going to try to keep this a part of the meeting - at least until people tell me that they are tired of it - so , if I can get my stuff together ( and get a bit more organized ) I'll try to have some 3 X 5 index cards available be- fore the meeting starts and anyone that has a question can put it down so they won't forget it in the heat of battle, ..er, dis-. cussion. You can put the cards in the box on the front desk, and I'll read them during the meeting. This is so everyone gets a chance to have their question heard. Some folks ain't as pushy and ag- gressive as others. This, of course, doesn't mean you can't ask something that occurs to you as it occurs (I'd like to see me or anybody try to stop SOME' folks from speakin' out!!) Also, if you have some interesting bit of infor- mation you want to pass along - get up and tell everybody, don't be shy.

For all you new members, we ARE trying to get some new. name tags made up. As of this date (and I ain't tellin' when I'm doin' this - so there!) we've gotten one quote back, and I'm waiting for another - but then we'll go ahead and get name tags for any members for whom I don't find an existing tag.

I contacted the manager of Software, Etc. in the Oak Court Mall and he said that his store would also participate in the 10% discount to NAG members during the first hour of business on Sundays. (Another deal may - I say MAY, not is, be in the works, stay tuned.) At any of the Software, Etc. stores in town, a NAG member can, during thishour get their discount by telling the clerk they are entitled to it, and what there name is (and that they are a NAG member) and the most recent membership list will be checked to be sure you are who you say you are. (Who else would you be?) The Secretary / Treasurer / President's Conscience Charles Williams, has made new membership cards for everyone. Be sure to get yours at the next meeting - this may eliminate the-name check at participating merchants who may give us a break.

The Memphis Area Computer Council Computer Fair will (tentatively) take place at State Technical Institute, in the Fulton Building, April 29th, from 10 am - 5 pm. We will need volunteers. to put on demonstrations, to answer questions of all the admiring and amazed public that will show up, and to HELP - help set up systems, help take down systems, help relieve demonstrators, help get food and drink, help ... well, you get the idea(s). To really show what kind of club we have, we're going to have to work together, and take it from me, you don't have to know a lot to do this, I don't...DIDN'T. I think at last year's fair several people found out that there WAS AN AMIGA GROUP in Memphis, and several of our present members joined at the time. A lot of Amiga's have been sold in the last year, so I'm positive there are a lot of folks out there looking for a group that has a lot of experience and expertise - seems to describe us to a T, doesn't it?

For those Graphic and Animation Fanatics, I have just the thing... hot off the wire, the WALKER DEMO, both of the 1 meg versions. As I understand it the originals were designed to run on 2 megs, but they were cut down to run on 1 meg. Anyway, I have a copy of both, and will have several copies at the meeting if anyone wants to get them - $1.00 each - or bring a blank disk to exchange for it... and I'd rather have the disk... of course -I could buy them from the Sec/Treas. I guess. If you KNOW YOU WANT ONE or both give me a call, and I'll have you a copy, if you don't call, it will be first come, first served. If I'm not home, the answering machine will take your message no excuses there. Then all I have to do is get organized the night before, hooo, boy!

Well, I think that's all I had for now, so I'd better stop typi.. . . .


Memphis Amiga Group
Box 17426
Memphis, TN 38187

MAGazine is published monthly by the Memphis Amiga Group (MAG), a nonprofit organization offering assistance to fellow Amiga owners and those interested in the Amiga. Membership in the Memphis Amiga Group is available for an annual fee of $20 per family. Memphis Amiga Group officers for 1989 are:

Broadus Weatherall
(901) 767-9239

Todd Rooks
(901) 373-0198

Charles Williams
(501) 655-8777

Bill Bowers
(901) 756-8196

Sean & John Kiss (901) 365-1244


Only after trying to publish these newsletters for the past three months, can we truly say how much we all should appreciate the fine job that Ed Bilson did for us as the editor of the MAGazine.


By Tom Limoncelli

The following article was written by Tom Limoncelli of Drew University in New Brunswick, New Jersey. It contains his notes taken at a recent (March 18, 1989) meeting of the Jersey Amiga Users Group. Max Toy was their guest speaker. It was downloaded from American People Link.

I took a lot of notes at the JAUG meeting last night when Max Toy, President of CBM USA spoke. He was an excellent speaker. He didn't have any particular order to what he spoke about and I'm going to basically re-count what .I was able to write down in the order that he mentioned it.

(My comments are in []s. Paraphrasing is done "s. Real quotes are in ""s. Everything is as complete and as accurate as my little fingers could move my pen. I disclaim any mistakes...

Evil Elvis made me do it!

He started out by giving us his private phone number (his direct line into the company) and told us that he wants to hear from us. He seems to be a really hard working person and is really setting CBM on the right route. I think that with his leadership Commodore (and the Amiga) will have a very good future. Max has been with CBM for 1.5 years (and had previously worked for Compaq).

"Our greatest asset has always been the people that have supported the Amiga... even when we didn't." The problem with the Amiga started with it's intro- duction. (which happened long time before he came to CBM). Commodore had just lost 215 million dollars and wrote off a lot of warehouse junk. In the middle of all that, they tried to introduce a new line of computers. They had almost perfect plans but couldn't follow through on them because of the stress they were under.

Most of their cash was coming in from the C-64 line, but that was declining. (BTW, now the C-64 line is on the *rise* and they plan on selling 2-3 million of them this year. Also, that makes them 'the "largest 'micro- computer [vendor] in the world." The Amiga line is also on the rise (as we all know). Commodore "will ship our 1 millionth Amiga about Tuesday of next week". This is significant because many companies will not develop software until the 1 million mark is reached. He also noted that they are planning on a big to-do in about a month all about their millionth Amiga (not on Tuesday... they need more time to plan and make it a "media event"). He also emphasized that most computer companies can't say that they've sold one million *anything*.

He noted that Apple sold their 1 millionth Macintosh last year. [That implies that Amiga accelerated faster] He took some time to thank the third part people (software, hardware, etc.) that support the Amiga. He noted that they count 2200 titles available for the Amiga.

MS-DOS news: The initial reaction to their MS-DOS line was unbelievably good. Therefore they are going to support a complete line of that BUT they will continue the Amiga and C-64 market.

Another successful change: He noted that production of new third-party and CBM peripherals almost completely stopped at one time... he has made that change.

He spoke a little about the- fact that more and more people are using Amigas. He mentioned a number of companies and included DEC, IBM, and Apple. para- phrased: 'Of course Apple! They use Amigas in their presentation area.' (that got a lot of laughs) Stanford Linear Accelerator only has 3 approved computers (I think he meant micros) and the Amiga is one of them. I can't :remember the other companies that he mentioned, but he said that many airports with the fancy displays "that tell you about the flight that you just missed" :-) are using Amigas (and more will very soon) 60% of Commodore's revenue comes from Europe even though the USA has the second largest market (I guess he's talking about population) BUT in America people are more "upscale and sophisticated". For example, the US sells mostly Amiga 2000s and in Europe mostly Amiga 500s are sold.

To be Continued in next month's MAGazine.


By Todd Rooks

I decided to write a short note about the club T-Shirts to keep you informed. Yes! We will take orders for t-shirts, sweaters, and jackets at the next meeting. The style will be the same as before, so the only thing left to decide is from whom to order them. This has been a matter of great concern to me because of the fiasco which occured in dealing with our last vendor. As you may already know, the last order was two month's overdue and most of the jackets were poorly screened. This time we'll make sure that quality and performance is a top priority. We will require the vendor to complete the order by the meeting after the order was placed (one month). I probably won't have any order forms ready for this issue, so I will record your orders in my book. The prices will probably vary from the last order since we'll have a new vendor. I'll have all that information .for you at the next meeting.: See you there!


03-20-89 Rick Johnson is selling his A500 with 2.5 meg memory and a 20 meg HD

03-21-89 Victor Karpov is selling 2 meg memory for Starboard 2 or Spirit. Chips 256K * 150 ns.



A1000 with 512K, keyboard and mouse $ 425
A1010 external drive $ 110
Timesaver macro/clock $ 35
Starboard II with 2 megs of RAM $ 625
A1080 RGB monitor $ 350
(separately as above, or all for -> $1400

(all system software & manuals included with package purchase)

Charles Williams
(501) 655-8777
or leave message on DPond



Juki 6100 daisy wheel printer with several assorted print wheels, several ribbons, separate tractor drive unit which can be attached, manual.

This printer is compatible with Diablo daisy wheel printer drivers.

$150 or best offer

Charles Williams
(501) 655-8777
or leave message on DPond BBS


The following paragraph was inadvertently left out of Ed Bilson's article about Sculpt 4D in last month's MAGazine.

I [Ed] went over to the Commodore Computer Store, and they were kind enough to let me render the same scene using their 2500. What took 48 minutes on my 1000 only took 7 minutes on their 2500 using the 68020 program supplied with 4D. Ah, it would be nice.


By Sean Kiss

Word Processing 2 2 3 9 7 4 3 1 1 4 1 4 4 6 1 5
Desktop Publishing 3 2 6 6 2 3 1 2 8 10
Basic Programming 1 10 8 5 5 3 3 10 6 2 10 7 2 3
Telecommunications 4 3 5 4 4 2 1 5 2 8 3 8 5 1 10
Games 8 1 10 3 1 1 4 10 5 9 4 6 3 1 5 10
Sound / Music 9 4 10 2 3 2 2 2 10 1 7 9 3 10 7
Graphics / Art 7 3 1 1 2 1 4 2 4 2 6 2 1 2 10 2
Business Software 5 7 5 10 10 5 2 7 5 8 7 7 10 1 3
C. A. D. 6 9 1 8 9 4 5 1 6 7 5 3 6 9 3 5
Desktop Video 10 9 7 7 8 2 10 3 10 9 5 5 4 9 10


A: Evening
D: Morning
L: Morning
N: Morning
P: Any Sat. but the 2nd
Q: Mon.-Thurs. Evening Sat. Any time


B: Frame Grabber
C: HP Deskjet
D: Amiga 500
E: Amiga
F: Desktop Publishing Package
H: PD Disks
J: Frame Grabber
K: Genlock
M: QMS Color Laser Printer
N: Amiga 500
O: Amiga 500
Q: Amiga w/ 1 meg Laser Printer


A: Cannot get onto the Duck Pond
E: Wants copy session at
the end of meetings;
SIGS on different days
Keep meetings 2 hours
long - no shorter
N: Wants list of Club disks and prices


A: Walter T. Chapman
B: Richard Johnson
C: Edward Bilson
D: Todd Rooks
E: Matt Buford
F: Dianne Lendennie
G: Broadus Weatherall
H: Lonnie Clay
I: T. A. Campbell
J: Charles Vineyard
K: Sean Kiss
L: Bill Hooker
M: Charles Williams
N: Marshall T. Davenport
O: Don Lockard
P: Walter K. Hoffman M.D.
Q: Mike Wallace
57 / 16 = 3.56 = 2 Word Processing
43 / 10 = 4.30 = 3 Desktop Publishing
75 / 14 = 5.36 = 6 Basic Programming
65 / 15 = 4.33 = 4 Telecommunications
81 / 16 = 5.06 = 5 Games
81 / 15 = 5.40 = 7 Sound / Music
50 / 16 = 3.13 = 1 Graphics / Art
92 / 15 = 6.13 = 9 Business Software
87 / 16 = 5.44 = 8 C. A. D.
108 / 15 = 7.20 = 10 Desktop Video


By Sean Kiss

The following program is the second in a series of BASIC tutorial designed to help people increase their programming skills. It should be ideal for those just beginning programming in BASIC or those who are trying to learn the concepts of AMIGA BASIC.

Please read, but do not type, the comments at the right which are prefaced by "-->". They were included to help explain the purpose of some of the commands. One may find it interesting to experiment with the variables by changing their values. This will provide varied visual effects.

DIM P(200)
  CLS                                --> Clears the screen
  RESTORE                            --> Allows DATA to be re-read
  FOR K=1 TO 10: PRINT : NEXT K      --> Drops cursor 10 lines
  INPUT "X INCREMENT: ";XI           --> Asks for x (horizontal) increment
  INPUT "Y INCREMENT: ";YI           --> Asks for y (vertical) increment
  CIRCLE (30,30),20,3,,,.5           --> Creates a circle refer to last month's
                                         article for explanation of this command
  PAINT (30,30),3                    --> Colors the circle with color #3
  GET (10,20)-(50,40),P              --> Encompasses with a rectangle 30 x 20
                                         pixels and names the circle "P"
Y=5                                  --> Initial Y value is set to 5
  READ A,B                           --> Reads two consecutive values from DATA
                                         command and assigns them respectively to
                                         A and B
  FOR X=A TO B STEP XI               --> Counts from A to B in increments of XI
    A$=INKEY$                        --> Checks for any keystrokes
    Y=Y+YI                           --> Assigns a new Y value by adding YI to the
                                         previous Y value
    IF Y>=175 THEN BACKUP            --> Conditional transfer to "BACKUP" if Y is
                                         greater than or equal to 175
    IF A$=" " THEN START             --> If the SPACE BAR has been pressed then the
                                         program branches to "START"
    PUT (X,Y),P                      --> Places P retrieved with GET at x- and
  NEXT X                             --> Return directive for the FOR command
  READ C,D                           --> Assigns sequential values from the DATA
                                         statement to C and D, respectively
    A$ = INKEY$
      IF Y<=10 THEN DOWN
      IF A$=" " THEN START
    PUT (X,Y),P
DATA 1,100,100,200,200,300,300,400,400,500,500,600

Memphis Amiga Group Membership list as of March 24, 1989

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Special Interest Group Chairpersons
John & Sean Kiss . . . . Sound
John & Sean Kiss . . . . Business
Keith Burns . . . . . . Hardware